Musicians Reveal with Joe Kelley

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Jeff Daniels: From Broadway to the Blues – An Inside Look at His Artistic Journey

Award-winning actor and musician Jeff Daniels graces the “Musicians Reveal with Joe Kelley: podcast with his presence, sharing a wealth of insight from his diverse career in film and music. The conversation begins with Daniels discussing his latest album, ‘Live and Unplugged,’ which benefits the Purple Rose Theater, a community theater he founded in Michigan. Joe Kelley, the host, engages Daniels in a lively discussion about the challenges and joys of performing live, especially when the audience has certain expectations based on his acting fame. Daniels reflects on the unique experience of standing on stage with just his guitar, comparing it to the vulnerability of his Broadway performances. He talks about how his extensive acting background has informed his music, helping him learn where to find the humor and emotion in his performances.

Delving into his film career, Daniels recounts working with legendary directors Woody Allen and Clint Eastwood, sharing personal stories that illuminate the distinctive styles of these iconic filmmakers. He highlights the collaborative nature of filmmaking and how it has shaped his approach to acting. Notably, he shares anecdotes about his experiences on the set of ‘The Purple Rose of Cairo’ and his role alongside Clint Eastwood in ‘Dirty Harry.’ These reflections not only showcase Daniels’ versatility as an actor but also offer a glimpse into the intricate world of filmmaking, filled with humor, challenges, and profound artistic expression.

As the conversation progresses, Daniels emphasizes his commitment to the arts, particularly his dedication to the Purple Rose Theater. He discusses the importance of nurturing artistic communities and providing a platform for emerging talent. Listeners gain insight into Daniels’ philosophy of putting family first, revealing how his roots in Michigan have influenced his career choices. The episode culminates in a heartfelt discussion about the intersection of his passions for music and acting, leaving the audience with a sense of inspiration and a deeper understanding of this multifaceted artist’s journey.

Takeaways:

  • Jeff Daniels shares the challenges and joys of balancing his acting and music careers.
  • His experiences working with Woody Allen shaped his approach to storytelling and performance.
  • Daniels emphasizes the importance of supporting local arts, especially his hometown theater.
  • He discusses the unique process of creating his latest album to benefit the Purple Rose Theater.
  • Daniels reflects on the vulnerability of performing solo with just his guitar on stage.
  • The conversation highlights his commitment to philanthropy and nurturing talent in artistic communities.

Links referenced in this episode:

Companies mentioned in this episode:

  • Purple Rose Theater
  • iTunes
  • CD Baby
  • Borders
  • Elderly Instruments

“Musicians Reveal” Podcast Bio

Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Prince featured the “Upper Room with Joe Kelley and Gi Dussault” on his official website http://www.npgmusicclub.com. This is the first radio show to have ever received that honor. “Musicians Reveal with Joe Kelley” has been on the radio airwaves since 1982. Joe Kelley and Gi Dussault co-host the show and are well-respected in the music business as creative air personalities and supporters of independent musicians . Our web site is located at www.musiciansreveal.com .

The show features creative music in funk, R&B, jazz, blues, rock, hip-hop, latin, and gospel. In addition, Joe Kelley has interviewed renowned musicians such as Victor Wooten, Sheila E. , Foley, Robin Duhe, Jef Lee Johnson, Jellybean Johnson, Monte Moir, Rhonda Smith, Bernie Worrell, Cyndi Lauper, Michael Bland, Larry Graham, Chris Frantz and Tina Weymouth, Steve Smith, St. Paul Peterson, JD Blair, Tori Ruffin, Kat Dyson, Eric Person, actor Jeff Daniels, Junior Giscombe, John Scofield, EC Scott, John Blackwell, Mystic Bowie, and many others.

Transcript
Joe:

We have been playing this CD for quite a while.

Joe:

It's a great CD.

Joe:

It's called Live and Unplugged to benefit the Purple Rose Theater, featuring singer, songwriter and producer and playwright Mister Jeff Daniels.

Joe:

And it's a true honor to have Jeff Daniels on the upper room.

Joe:

Thanks, Jeff.

Jeff Daniels:

Good to be here, Joe.

Joe:

So you're really busy.

Joe:

I'm looking at your itinerary, doing as many shows this winter as a regular rock star performer.

Joe:

What, what's been going on in preparation for this next stint of shows?

Jeff Daniels:

For the Purple Rose shows?

Joe:

Yeah, the Purple Rose shows.

Joe:

Yeah.

Jeff Daniels:

Well, I mean, it's, it's an unusual problem for me because I've got the cd out and people are going to want to hear certain songs off the cd.

Jeff Daniels:

So, you know, I've got like 35, 40 songs that I, that are not on the cd, that, you know, easily another 15 that I could play and could easily do a show of all new material, which I'll probably, over the ten shows, drop in all of those songs at various points and.

Jeff Daniels:

But it's fun.

Jeff Daniels:

It's, you know, I mean, John Hyatt, he's a guy that, I mean, he will walk out with a song list of 75 songs that he can play and depending on how he feels and what the crowd's like, and he'll just go down the list and kind of go, all right, I'll do that one.

Jeff Daniels:

So I don't know, maybe it'll be that this time.

Joe:

So we have cameras rolling and tape rolling for possible further release.

Jeff Daniels:

We'll have tape rolling.

Jeff Daniels:

We've had tape rolling all four of the past years.

Jeff Daniels:

And we'll roll tape on every show.

Jeff Daniels:

We have about 25 to 30 songs that we've recorded live in various places.

Jeff Daniels:

Purple Rose last year and also Birdland and Joe's pub in New York and Ramshead down in Annapolis.

Jeff Daniels:

We recorded those shows.

Jeff Daniels:

So we've got, we've got plenty of material.

Jeff Daniels:

We'll probably do something.

Jeff Daniels:

Put out a second cd by the fall of next year.

Joe:

Well, listeners right now, they can go to jeffdaniels.com for getting Jeff CD.

Joe:

And it's all available on Internet websites as well.

Joe:

ITunes CD, baby, in your local borders and other outlets.

Joe:

And also you're up on itunes as well.

Joe:

You've been doing a lot of traveling around and promoting the record, which, which is good.

Joe:

You know, people see the album out and maybe say they didn't know you were performing the song, but you've been performing just about 30 years or so, right?

Jeff Daniels:

Yeah.

Jeff Daniels:

Quietly just been playing just for my own enjoyment.

Jeff Daniels:

Self taught, you know, got all the Stefan Grossman books and, you know, Kev, Moe and all those guys, you know, I just really, you know, studied it, especially Delta blues and all that.

Jeff Daniels:

I've just done it and written songs basically for my own kind of notebook, just to throw it in there.

Jeff Daniels:

It's kind of like a musical diary.

Jeff Daniels:

And about four or five years ago, in order to raise more money, the theater said, why don't you go out on stage with your guitar and see if we can charge money for people to come and see you?

Jeff Daniels:

And I was like, well, okay.

Jeff Daniels:

I mean, when you're raising money for a nonprofit, you'll do anything.

Jeff Daniels:

It worked, and they came.

Jeff Daniels:

And once I got through the first year and discovered just how naked you are out there with just an acoustic guitar and you're own material, I understood what it was and now have turned it into this show that's on the cd, which is very entertaining, very funny, and at times even moving.

Joe:

That's interesting.

Joe:

You say how naked it could be on stage.

Joe:

I was reading a quote from Prince.

Joe:

He did an acoustic set in his last tour, and he said, you can't be up there thinking about your grocery list the next day.

Joe:

You got to be really focused on everything with the audience.

Jeff Daniels:

You've got to be there.

Jeff Daniels:

And, you know, what helped, to be honest was Broadway.

Jeff Daniels:

You know, as an actor, to be on stage eight times a week on Broadway or off Broadway, and where you're doing the show over and over and over and over, you start to learn where the jokes are, where, you know, where it's strong, where it's weak.

Jeff Daniels:

And it just, it was a great kind of introduction to, you know, the musical show, you know, with the acoustic guitar.

Jeff Daniels:

And it kind of, at least it wasn't completely foreign to me.

Jeff Daniels:

But you're definitely, you know, when you go into the guitar solo, there's no band to look to, that's for sure.

Joe:

So our listeners right now, we're talking with Jeff Daniels and the CD, which is entitled Live and Unplugged to benefit the Purple Rose Theater.

Joe:

All the proceeds going back into the theater, right?

Jeff Daniels:

Yeah.

Jeff Daniels:

All the proceeds from the CD go to the Purple Rose Theater Company, which is, we've sold through the website jeffdaniels.com and iTunes, et cetera.

Jeff Daniels:

We sold about 12,000 cds, which is pretty good for an independent release.

Joe:

Oh, yeah, definitely.

Joe:

People out in the midwest can go out to Chelsea, Michigan, December 20 through the 31st.

Joe:

Ten shows.

Joe:

Jeff will be performing at the Purple Rose Theater, 137 Park Street, Chelsea, Michigan.

Joe:-:Joe:

And do you pronounce a tell ride?

Jeff Daniels:

Telluride, I believe Telluride.

Joe:

Okay.

Joe:

And then coming here in the east, which is about two and a half hours from where we are March 18 in Somerville, Mass.

Joe:

At the Somerville theater.

Joe:

Special guest with Cheryl Wheeler, which I'm.

Jeff Daniels:

Going to open for Cheryl, which will be a thrill.

Jeff Daniels:

I'm a big fan of her songwriting.

Joe:

Now, we kicked off before we plugged in for the interview.

Joe:

The opening track to the record, if William Shatner can, I can, too, and definitely showcases your humor, but great chops on the vocals and guitar playing.

Joe:

This actually kind of.

Joe:

Was it the impetus, the title for the record, to get you actually putting one together?

Jeff Daniels:

Well, you got.

Jeff Daniels:

No, that kind of came later.

Jeff Daniels:

It was in front of the first show I did.

Jeff Daniels:

I go, I gotta have an opening song because people are gonna come and basically, you know, wait to see a train wreck.

Jeff Daniels:

And I gotta deal with that, the disclaimer right up front.

Jeff Daniels:

And so I've.

Jeff Daniels:

In the four years, I've always opened my show with, you know, basically a song that says, look, I know I'm an actor, and I know I'm not known for this, and I know you're sitting back judging me with, like, an o and two, count on me.

Jeff Daniels:

But you know what?

Jeff Daniels:

It's.

Jeff Daniels:

Here's a song that deals with it, and it kind of gets that out of the way right off the bat.

Joe:

So have you been keeping up with the.

Joe:

The hot stove league with.

Joe:

With the Tigers?

Jeff Daniels:

Tigers are a mess, and the Lions are worse.

Joe:

Oh, yeah, definitely.

Joe:

Yeah.

Jeff Daniels:

So I'm actually going to do the Tiger fan blues at the Purple Rose shows in a couple weeks, and I've rewritten it to include references to the Lions.

Joe:

Right.

Joe:

But I got to give you credit, because I heard you were, despite that really big losing season, you had the Tiger fan hat on regardless.

Joe:

Right.

Jeff Daniels:

They're my guys.

Jeff Daniels:

They're my team.

Jeff Daniels:

You know, you got to stick with them.

Jeff Daniels:

And.

Jeff Daniels:

And it's tough, you know, to walk into, like, a place like New York and watch all these Yankees fans walking around.

Joe:

I'm a met fan, so you don't have to worry.

Joe:

I can't stand the Yankees.

Jeff Daniels:

Oh, well, hey.

Jeff Daniels:

Hello.

Jeff Daniels:

But I just, you know, I mean, I wear that.

Jeff Daniels:

I got.

Jeff Daniels:

We have an apartment in New York, the top, more of a brownstone.

Jeff Daniels:

And, yeah, I've got three Tiger caps in there that I wear around the city.

Joe:

So why don't we give a listen to that song, which we just spoke about, the lifelong Tiger fan blues.

Joe:

And it's from my special guest, Jeff Daniels.

Joe:

You can go to jeffdaniels.com to find out all about the record and to support independent musical theater and theater.

Joe:

So we'll come back and speak once again.

Joe:

And that's another track from Jeff Daniels, live and unplugged at the Purple Rose Theater, the lifelong Tiger fan blues.

Joe:

And Jeff Daniels is our special guest here, accomplished actor, producer, playwright and singer and producer.

Joe:

So got to give you plaudits for all your storied career and, you know, film and Broadway and you've got just, you know, we'll touch a little bit on the, on the acting upcoming.

Joe:

You have rv with Robin Williams, right?

Joe:

That must, is it totally completed?

Jeff Daniels:

Yeah.

Jeff Daniels:

Well, I mean, they're in post production, so they're doing music and looping.

Jeff Daniels:

But yeah, we're done shooting.

Jeff Daniels:

And it's a very funny movie, big studio comedy about recreational vehicles and Robin and his family.

Jeff Daniels:

Basically, the movie is Robin and his family take a recreational vehicle trip and everything that can possibly go wrong does.

Jeff Daniels:

And it's, it's very funny.

Jeff Daniels:

It was a thrill to work with him.

Joe:

Now, about how often do you films a year or does it vary?

Jeff Daniels:

It varies.

Jeff Daniels:

You kNow, it depends.

Jeff Daniels:

You know, if you're in demand or people want you, then you're, I mean, I'll probably spend six to seven, eight months a year shooting and then make sure I take the four months off it, you kNow, spread out.

Jeff Daniels:

But, you kNow, I tend not to take movies that, you know, shoot for a year and a Half in Thailand or something.

Joe:

I think I saw, we were watching the other night on one of the channels, your old buddy Woody Allen, they asked him if something about, you know, how much he is into making movies.

Joe:

And he said, well, if it's 630 at night and they want to do another shot over and over and the nick game's at seven, he goes, inevitably he'll go to the nick game instead of doing the other shot.

Jeff Daniels:

It's true.

Jeff Daniels:

And it's a great lesson.

Jeff Daniels:

I mean, when we shot purple rose of Cairo, I was on that for Woody.

Jeff Daniels:

That was definitely it.

Jeff Daniels:

If he had Knicks tickets or the game was on tv that night, we were finished by five, no problem.

Joe:

Yeah.

Joe:

Actually, he was commenting on the purple rise of Cairo and yourself during that.

Joe:

So it probably was right around there.

Jeff Daniels:

Absolutely.

Jeff Daniels:

Yeah.

Jeff Daniels:

And it was great because it's like, you know, it's like a human work a day, you know, it's not one of these 18 to 20 hours days where they just drive you into the ground.

Jeff Daniels:

It's.

Jeff Daniels:

Woody's got Nick's tickets and he's going, and that's a wrap.

Jeff Daniels:

It's beautiful.

Jeff Daniels:

It's a beautiful thing.

Joe:

Well, you know, the thing about what you've done, I'm sure, for your family and your wife, you worked in New York and established a movie career, and then you went back home to Chelsea, Michigan.

Joe:

What's it like?

Joe:

What was actually.

Joe:

What was it like at the beginning, making that decision to go back home and still make a career and do what you love.

Jeff Daniels:

Well, all we did, Kathleen and I just.

Jeff Daniels:

We wanted.

Jeff Daniels:

We had one kid, we were gonna have more.

Jeff Daniels:

And we both are from Michigan, so it was familiar to us.

Jeff Daniels:

It was home.

Jeff Daniels:

And after ten years in New York, we just moved back to Michigan because it was home.

Jeff Daniels:

And that's where we wanted to be, and that's where we wanted to be based.

Jeff Daniels:

And all we did, which is unusual in Hollywood, is all we did is we put family first, career second.

Jeff Daniels:

It was that simple.

Jeff Daniels:

Career was a close second, you know, as far as money and supporting a family and all that.

Jeff Daniels:

But it was second that meant that we didn't live where the career wanted me to live, which was LA.

Jeff Daniels:

We lived where the family would be best off, in our opinion.

Jeff Daniels:

And I was the one on the airplanes, and that's how we did it.

Jeff Daniels:

And our kids, I think, are better for it.

Joe:

Now, for the musicians out there, what kind of guitar do you bring out on stage and use on the record?

Jeff Daniels:

I got.

Jeff Daniels:Well, on the cd, I used a:Jeff Daniels:

It just.

Jeff Daniels:

It's a great sounding guitar.

Jeff Daniels:

And Gibson, it was actually made in Kalamazoo, Michigan.

Jeff Daniels:

And so being from Michigan, that was important to me.

Jeff Daniels:

I've got about ten of these different guitars I'm playing right now.

Jeff Daniels:I'm playing a:Jeff Daniels:

It was an arch top with the f holes.

Jeff Daniels:

And they didn't sound very good back then, and so they stopped making them very quickly.

Jeff Daniels:

There's a company in Lansing, Michigan, called elderly instruments, and the vintage guitar guys out there know where that is and know of it.

Jeff Daniels:up there, and he took an old:Jeff Daniels:you know, he basically took a:Jeff Daniels:

So I don't feel so badly about plugging in the hardware and the pickups and all that stuff into it.

Jeff Daniels:

You know, I don't feel like I'm destroying a piece of art, but the sound of it is great, and that's what I've been playing recently.

Joe:

So they got some good music shops out your way?

Jeff Daniels:

They do.

Jeff Daniels:

They really do.

Jeff Daniels:

Elderly is probably the leader, you know, as far as, I mean, they've got everything and they're a nationally recognized kind of, you know, store.

Jeff Daniels:

I mean, they're, they got everything and they're great.

Jeff Daniels:

I mean, I take all my stuff up there to be fixed.

Joe:

Now with the success of this independent release CD, the live, and a plug to benefit the Purple Rose Theater.

Joe:

Any future plans?

Joe:

Right now you got stuff in the Jeff Daniels musical vault to put out another one studio release.

Jeff Daniels:

Well, we've got Christine Lavin, who's a big supporter of the CD, asked me to write a song called about food.

Jeff Daniels:

She's putting out a CD in about six months to a year called one Meatball, which is basically people like me.

Jeff Daniels:

She's very kindly included me with Dave Van Ronk and Tom Paxton and other people writing songs.

Jeff Daniels:

But it has to be about food.

Jeff Daniels:

It's a typical Christine Lavin comedy kind of thing.

Jeff Daniels:

And so that's the kind of assignment is to write something about a food, about recipe.

Jeff Daniels:

And so I wrote this song called Tomato pudding, which is, you know, this family recipe we've got that we throw out every Thanksgiving.

Jeff Daniels:

And so I turned it into this kind of, you know, sexual kind of thing that, you know, Christine blushes when I play it, but so I'm gonna put that on her cd.

Jeff Daniels:

We've got a live version of it that I did at Joe's pub in New York.

Jeff Daniels:

But we also, we're going to do a studio version of it that we're almost finished with.

Joe:

That should be great.

Joe:

And Jeff Daniels, our special guest, I got to thank you for coming by.

Joe:

WVUF in the upper room.

Joe:

And our WVUF listeners, if you missed out on this in interview and just checked in, we'll be re airing it in its entirety for three days and four nights@upperroomwithjokelley.com.

Joe:

so we should go out with a couple songs from the cDNA, make sure fans come out, support you on this tour.

Joe:

And if you're in Chelsea, Michigan, ten shows from December 20 through December 31.

Joe:

Jeffdaniels.com.

Joe:

let's see.

Joe:

We'll go out with a song which talks about your encounters on the movie set with Clint Eastwood, dirty Harry blues, which has got a lot of humor to it.

Joe:

And of course, the song, I'm sure, means a lot to you.

Joe:

Mama never left her oldest boy alone.

Jeff Daniels:

Yeah.

Joe:

Very supportive mom.

Joe:

Right?

Jeff Daniels:

Very much so.

Jeff Daniels:

And she said something to me that kept me in New York, and it's probably a big reason why I'm still an actor.

Joe:

So thanks, Jeff.

Joe:

I really, really appreciate it.

Jeff Daniels:

Thanks, Joe.

Jeff Daniels:

Good time.

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